African or black or dark philosophers

You find many posts or can find them 

asking about african or black philosophers

but then again what is black or african philosophy and are they synonomous

for some the term black is very loose that mixed raced people or even anyone with african descent is black 

though they may not look it 

or it could be more idealogical as being in a certain sphere

like eminem makes black music 

because hiphop is black music

but definitions are mountaintops of which we may have different view points

for the philosopher above is albert camus

a french speaker

descendant from the northern part of africa

ergo an african philosopher

by default

but may not be an african philosopher in regards to subject matter an approach

so yh it gets tricky 

depending if all the criterion matter

to you

and that ethnicity means all for you

or just one needs to be fulfilled

but not to get bogged down in matters of validity

african philosophers

many posters of such questions

do so for lack of alternate history 

or a depth of history

where if someone 

was to quote a philosopher

or a poc

person of colour

it would not be a person who lived more than 500 years ago

or 100

to be generalistic

which boils down 

to the elephant in the room

and colonialism

and eurocentrisim

lol side note there is a squiggly line under eurocentrisim

i clicked on it and came up afrocentrisim

hmmm

but that is for you to deliberate on 

and these are the cases for the questions

that does not give us the answer

short answer is of course there are

but another thing to be thrown in the mix

what do we count as philosophy

many throw out martin luther

king 

otherwise we are talking about the german martin luther which totally irrelevant

and possibly his antithesis

where as i would call malcolm or malik

a philosopher 

it may be of some sort

for it comes down to what is a philosopher

one who follows a philosophical principle

or one who knows philosophical concepts

or wonders and ponders

or perhaps one who writes or retorts philosophy

of a original point of view

and in that case i would call malcolm sorry malik 

one more on the last point

and in a terms of african philosopher is subject matter breached 

africa as well

so he could be a double certified one

such as african african philosopher

but not be diverted again

and one person i would recommend is

and if you dont know him 

find out 

and then there is an argument

can there be specific types

of philosophies

or science

but yeah answer of course there are 

but we must uncover the history and find pre colonial africa

 and not be bogged down 

by one 

afrocentric labelling

for any line of specific search is centric

are they saying you shouldnt

which begs the question why

for in the search of knowledge and balance someone should

and i bet the person who is calling you that 

is not alleviating you from that title 

by wiling to do it themselves

but yeah in a winding down fashion 

another philosopher is i

if you are in the search for even more contemporary

or just a name to say 

to be all hipster

like i bet you never read

ahh wait it sounds to much like a sales technique

or is it 

anyways

another thing which must be down is places or forums where people can find dark or african philosophers with relative ease

since google is to vast 

and with that 

we should see more philosophers

come to the furore

information is key

it is good we first ask this question next it is the point of making these people known 

and our word or philosophical 

concept 

is

drum roll

duh duh duh duh ddddddd 

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is 

ubuntu

^^^^^

find out see you soon

I hope to see these gangsters acting like teachers: aka prison is not the end

When some think of gangsters

this is what comes to mind^^

and some people brush all people who are in prison as gangsters or good for nothing

there are numerous films of different than your average ending up in prison


so i decided to find a number of people who went to prison or spent time in a cell


mlk spent time in a cell evidence of his mug shot but that has not diminished who or what he was

mandela spent time in prison yet went on to become a leader of a nation

also socrates was in prison yet that series of events went to spur on a movement
as well as a recount of the ordeal called the apology

yes that is right for those christians out there jesus went to prison or a cell
yet that was not the end of him or his legacy

and for some not as famous people

and he published his memoirs on the topic

that is right one of the most famous philosophers sartre was a prisoner

then there is wittgenstein
some call the father of logic the philosophical slash numerical  kind
one of the most famous intellectuals
and often labelled genius
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
this is his fabled masterpiece and here is a link to an excerpt of his life
http://www.wittgen-cam.ac.uk/biogre6.html


sade marquis de sade
intresting fact the word sadistic is homage to him
some of you are like what homage is that
but on another note there is a film about him i will review soon called

Quills (2000) - IMDb

leon trotsky 

a leader of the communistic rebellion before stalin and his memoirs can say the rest

lastly we get to malcolm x which i will cover in the next installation

honorable mentions

rosa parks

the catalyst or the straw that broke the camels back 

of the bus boycott

huey p newton

founding member of the black panther party 

whilst in their struggle for liberation 

they concocted the most dangerous of schemes

providing free meals for the kids in their community

paraphrased from documents of the president hoover

muhammad ali 

world famous boxer went to prison for not wanting to go to war

stripped off his title and managed to win it back

prison was not the end of him

Gandhi

we kinda know about this guy

so prison is not the end 

you may follow up on these people and 

conclude the duration and varying entries into prison life

and that some of them  immediately died in prison 

but this post is more than for the would be gangsters

because i am not glorifying prison

but challenging the view of prison being the end

for if we take muhammad ali 

he lost his title that he fought for 

and going to prison was harder than losing your morals and yourself 

fighting an injust war

and for some people aka the prisoners of war like sartre 

wittgenstein and co 

they may have been thinking i am not going to leave this place

and at sometimes in western history it would of been weaker of you shying away from prison

than going to it 

like mlk and mandela

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evin_Prison

then there is this prison 

nicknamed the evin university for its number of intellectuals